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		<title>By: BootaSingh</title>
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		<dc:creator>BootaSingh</dc:creator>
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		<description>After Islam arrived in India many fake historians have tried to Semitize India but failed miserably. Now Fida Hassnain is making such an effort. Fida Hassnan fabricates that Abraham and Soloman flew into India and later on Jesus walked his way to India.

Neither does the old testament nor the new testament or any ancient Hindu book mention this. Names such as Abraham etc., arrived into Aryan India only after Islam made inroads into India. Hindu India had and has  only Aryan prophets, names,culture, etc.</description>
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<p>Neither does the old testament nor the new testament or any ancient Hindu book mention this. Names such as Abraham etc., arrived into Aryan India only after Islam made inroads into India. Hindu India had and has  only Aryan prophets, names,culture, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: A Time To Reflect &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Musing on classical music</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Time To Reflect &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Musing on classical music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secular-Right India: Bigotry In A Temple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secular-Right India: Bigotry In A Temple</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: froginthewell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a. The laws depend on the region - non-hindus cannot enter most of the temples of Kerala, for instance. It is sad that people find priests alone as soft targets.

b. So what? I did not say all temples are universal so why bring in such a point?

c. There are many temples with non-brahmin priests. I have only heard of exclusions by them ( towards still (so-called)lower caste/casteless ). Even if it be obvious that all priests are brahmin - then why would you specifically mention the word brahmin there?

 Yes, hinduism needs reform : but this kind of hatred-mongering  is not going to effect that, but  more constructive forums &lt;a href=&quot;http://shastras.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; might help.

 The priests of some major temples may be rich but most of them are poor, not-so-well-educated etc. And when they find people scoffing at them and their profession which they consider so sacred and dear, their sense of insecurity would only force them to become more conservative.

 And on an unrelated note : while women should be given equal rights and status there should be  a  separation/distance between them - there shouldn&#039;t be &quot;co-ed&quot; ventures. On yet another unrelated note I find it difficult to imagine a pop-star singing genuinely devotional bhajans ( based on Indian ragas etc. ).</description>
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<p>b. So what? I did not say all temples are universal so why bring in such a point?</p>
<p>c. There are many temples with non-brahmin priests. I have only heard of exclusions by them ( towards still (so-called)lower caste/casteless ). Even if it be obvious that all priests are brahmin &#8211; then why would you specifically mention the word brahmin there?</p>
<p> Yes, hinduism needs reform : but this kind of hatred-mongering  is not going to effect that, but  more constructive forums <a href="http://shastras.org/" rel="nofollow">this</a> might help.</p>
<p> The priests of some major temples may be rich but most of them are poor, not-so-well-educated etc. And when they find people scoffing at them and their profession which they consider so sacred and dear, their sense of insecurity would only force them to become more conservative.</p>
<p> And on an unrelated note : while women should be given equal rights and status there should be  a  separation/distance between them &#8211; there shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;co-ed&#8221; ventures. On yet another unrelated note I find it difficult to imagine a pop-star singing genuinely devotional bhajans ( based on Indian ragas etc. ).</p>
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		<title>By: gargi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Frog in the Well
A) i am not aware of any law against non hindus entring temples. there are enough non hindus who go to tirupati, tirutani, meenakshi, kamakshi, parbhadevi, etal. and this includes firangs. And the reason i make a point on firangs is that it easier to tell them apart than it is an indian christian or a indian muslim from an indian hindu
b) there are temples that disbar women from entring their hallowed portals. There are temples that have strictures against widows entering. There are temples that have an issue with Dalits entering.
c) i have no hatred against purohits - excpet that they should stick to their job of offering prayers. And not get in thte way of allowing devout to say their prayers. As far as Brahmin priests are concerned - do you know of any other caste that performs the priestly function.
There needs to be a fundamental reform of the Hindu system from within. Caste by birth needs to give way to profession by aptitude. women - even today cannot offer last rites for their parents. even if they are the only child. and who prevents them - the Brahmin priest. Dalits - even if they are proficient in Sanksrit cannot be initiated in the Gayatri - who makes these rules.
We can all sit here and pontificate about Islam being reforemed - and there is no argument on that.
how about all of us who are Hindus calling for a reform of this kind of idiocy in Hinduism. Afterall, our religion is supposed to accept all paths.</description>
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A) i am not aware of any law against non hindus entring temples. there are enough non hindus who go to tirupati, tirutani, meenakshi, kamakshi, parbhadevi, etal. and this includes firangs. And the reason i make a point on firangs is that it easier to tell them apart than it is an indian christian or a indian muslim from an indian hindu<br />
b) there are temples that disbar women from entring their hallowed portals. There are temples that have strictures against widows entering. There are temples that have an issue with Dalits entering.<br />
c) i have no hatred against purohits &#8211; excpet that they should stick to their job of offering prayers. And not get in thte way of allowing devout to say their prayers. As far as Brahmin priests are concerned &#8211; do you know of any other caste that performs the priestly function.<br />
There needs to be a fundamental reform of the Hindu system from within. Caste by birth needs to give way to profession by aptitude. women &#8211; even today cannot offer last rites for their parents. even if they are the only child. and who prevents them &#8211; the Brahmin priest. Dalits &#8211; even if they are proficient in Sanksrit cannot be initiated in the Gayatri &#8211; who makes these rules.<br />
We can all sit here and pontificate about Islam being reforemed &#8211; and there is no argument on that.<br />
how about all of us who are Hindus calling for a reform of this kind of idiocy in Hinduism. Afterall, our religion is supposed to accept all paths.</p>
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