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		<title>By: Deepesh</title>
		<link>http://calamur.org/gargi/2005/10/25/freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am a properietor and run my small business here.... there has been some one asking for my income tax returns from the deaprtment... they have asked me should they give or not....

I am interested that if u could help me with a copy of the law where it states that the right of information law does not apply to private people ?

Please direly in need.

Deepesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am a properietor and run my small business here&#8230;. there has been some one asking for my income tax returns from the deaprtment&#8230; they have asked me should they give or not&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am interested that if u could help me with a copy of the law where it states that the right of information law does not apply to private people ?</p>
<p>Please direly in need.</p>
<p>Deepesh</p>
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		<title>By: ravi</title>
		<link>http://calamur.org/gargi/2005/10/25/freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TTG, I am not sure whether i want to spend the rest of my natural life in litigation.
if my bank is giving out my credit rating (or yours) to another agency - doesn&#039;t it make sense that you know about it? So, a simple fine print saying that they are sharing the info. with xyz. so that you as the consumer know

if your mobile company is sharing your number with the whole world and his idiot cousin - then we need to know. a supreme court ruling is retrospective. but, what about my privacy, and that of a whole lot of consumers getting compromised.

If a factory in your neighbourhood is dumpling effluents in the powai lake - hello - by the time someone files a PIL or the government gets aware - a whole bunch of people will be suffering.

So more rights to the consumers. It is only where consumers have rights that industry per se also flourishes. we get rid of the chaff and are left with

Having said that i buy harini&#039;s point that having separate legislation may be stupid. something as simple as taxation - by the time we have filed sales tax, vat, service tax, company tax, tds, and complied with half a ziilion regulations that have no meaning anymore - we have generated paperwork that would probably destroyed half a rain forest:) I would love to see a system where we have a single tax window for the lot. I would love to see an unified regulatory environment for my area of business.

Fewer rules, but rules that are sensible and enforced. Creating a climate that is easy to do business, at the same time where a consumer&#039;s rights are protected.

I would definitely agree more the Western Eurpoean model than the US model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TTG, I am not sure whether i want to spend the rest of my natural life in litigation.<br />
if my bank is giving out my credit rating (or yours) to another agency &#8211; doesn&#8217;t it make sense that you know about it? So, a simple fine print saying that they are sharing the info. with xyz. so that you as the consumer know</p>
<p>if your mobile company is sharing your number with the whole world and his idiot cousin &#8211; then we need to know. a supreme court ruling is retrospective. but, what about my privacy, and that of a whole lot of consumers getting compromised.</p>
<p>If a factory in your neighbourhood is dumpling effluents in the powai lake &#8211; hello &#8211; by the time someone files a PIL or the government gets aware &#8211; a whole bunch of people will be suffering.</p>
<p>So more rights to the consumers. It is only where consumers have rights that industry per se also flourishes. we get rid of the chaff and are left with</p>
<p>Having said that i buy harini&#8217;s point that having separate legislation may be stupid. something as simple as taxation &#8211; by the time we have filed sales tax, vat, service tax, company tax, tds, and complied with half a ziilion regulations that have no meaning anymore &#8211; we have generated paperwork that would probably destroyed half a rain forest:) I would love to see a system where we have a single tax window for the lot. I would love to see an unified regulatory environment for my area of business.</p>
<p>Fewer rules, but rules that are sensible and enforced. Creating a climate that is easy to do business, at the same time where a consumer&#8217;s rights are protected.</p>
<p>I would definitely agree more the Western Eurpoean model than the US model.</p>
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		<title>By: gargi</title>
		<link>http://calamur.org/gargi/2005/10/25/freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>gargi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 06:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to intrude on a pvt conversation :)
but
Monopolies and Restrictive practices deals well with monopolies, cartels and market fixing
Consumer court deals with my individual grievance incase i choose to file.
both of these i agree on.

but what i am talking about is something called disclosure - from a consumer&#039;s view point. . simple data TTG - how many loans given, how much foreclosed
how much pollution put out, and what has been done to counter that
&quot;good&quot; companies already do that .
Things that are already par for the course in most developed economies. And if we are on the path to becoming &#039;developed&#039; we need to put those safeguard mechanisms in place, from the point of view of the consumer.

i agree with you that one more law to deal with this may not help. just simplify the Companies Act and simultaneoulsy look at increasing the purview.

as far as government involvement in business is concerned grrr...... i have to deal with their idiocy on a daily basis. 3 types of taxation to start with. tons of paperwork for no rhyme or reason, .....  i have to hire people just to cope with government requirements. my own guess is that it is an underhand way of extending the EGS among the urban educated, and getting business to pay for it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to intrude on a pvt conversation <img src='http://calamur.org/gargi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
but<br />
Monopolies and Restrictive practices deals well with monopolies, cartels and market fixing<br />
Consumer court deals with my individual grievance incase i choose to file.<br />
both of these i agree on.</p>
<p>but what i am talking about is something called disclosure &#8211; from a consumer&#8217;s view point. . simple data TTG &#8211; how many loans given, how much foreclosed<br />
how much pollution put out, and what has been done to counter that<br />
&#8220;good&#8221; companies already do that .<br />
Things that are already par for the course in most developed economies. And if we are on the path to becoming &#8216;developed&#8217; we need to put those safeguard mechanisms in place, from the point of view of the consumer.</p>
<p>i agree with you that one more law to deal with this may not help. just simplify the Companies Act and simultaneoulsy look at increasing the purview.</p>
<p>as far as government involvement in business is concerned grrr&#8230;&#8230; i have to deal with their idiocy on a daily basis. 3 types of taxation to start with. tons of paperwork for no rhyme or reason, &#8230;..  i have to hire people just to cope with government requirements. my own guess is that it is an underhand way of extending the EGS among the urban educated, and getting business to pay for it <img src='http://calamur.org/gargi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TTG</title>
		<link>http://calamur.org/gargi/2005/10/25/freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>TTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.
Ravis, my point about the consumer court is just that - the laws for comapnies are sufficient, they are not &lt;i&gt;enforced&lt;/i&gt;. The constitution talks about a litigant&#039;s right to speedy justice. Not getting speedy justice means the law is not being enforced properly.

As for oligopolies and monopolies, that is again already under the purview of a bunch of laws. If laws are not enforced, what good is another one demanding Right to Information? One more law not enforced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.<br />
Ravis, my point about the consumer court is just that &#8211; the laws for comapnies are sufficient, they are not <i>enforced</i>. The constitution talks about a litigant&#8217;s right to speedy justice. Not getting speedy justice means the law is not being enforced properly.</p>
<p>As for oligopolies and monopolies, that is again already under the purview of a bunch of laws. If laws are not enforced, what good is another one demanding Right to Information? One more law not enforced.</p>
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		<title>By: gargi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gargi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and sid thanks for pointing that out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and sid thanks for pointing that out <img src='http://calamur.org/gargi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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