Navin Jindal, Khap & the Deobandi's - Anti Constiutional therefore anti Indian?

Caste, Desi Pundit, Gender Issues, India, Politics, Religion, Society 35 Responses »
May 122010

Two very different instances of religious/caste patriarchs intervening in civil society have come to the fore in the last couple of days. Both are Anti Constitutional. And, its about time the Government and the System said religious oppression in the name of Religious freedom be damned – the Constitution comes first.

The first instance was the Khap Panchayats that has been flexing its muscles for quite some time – excommunicating and killing without consequences. They have got Navin Jindal to tow the line now.

Mr. Jindal has said –

“I and my whole family respect the years old traditions and rituals of khap panchayats. My house is their own home and they can come there any time. I am just like their own child and I can never go against them; rather I always need their blessings.”

Navin Jindal, if you remember, is the man who went all the way to the Supreme Court for the right of Indian Citizens to fly the Indian Flag, and won .

Mr.Jindal has forgotten that the Indian flag represents the Indian Republic. And, the Indian Republic is enshrined by the Indian Constitution . The Indian Constitution states:

14. The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India.
15. (1) The State shall not discriminate against any citizen on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, place of birth or any of them.

If the Khap Panchayat had its way – it is not just same gotra marriages that will be nullified, but there will be penalties to anyone who breaks caste rules . And, as all of us know, these rules – if applied to their logical conclusion – will lead to the Hindus getting their equivalent of the Taliban.

I wonder if a Member of Parliament who is so ready to violate the Constitution has the right to be in Parliament !

The second instance of the Constitution being violated, is the Deobandi’s – who have declared that it is haram for women to work

“It is unlawful (under the Sharia law) for Muslim women to work in the government or private sector where men and women work together and women have to talk with men frankly and without a veil,”

If the fatwa is followed through to its logical conclusion, it would mean that Indian citizens who are Muslim women cannot be the President, Prime Minister, Member of Parliament. They can’t work in a Hospital, a Call Centre, a Hotel. They can’t teach in a co-educational school, they cannot work for a NGO, they can’t work as engineers…. This essentially means that women are barred from most professions except sweat shops where they can sit with other women and sew stuff at cut price rate.

In both cases a bunch of patriarchs want the world to bend to their interpretation of religion, and honour …. I hope that in both cases this is the straw that breaks the back of an communities that have kept quiet — and rise up to delegitimise both the Khap Panchayats and the Deobandi’s. The best way to destroy them is to stop listening to them !!

And finally – i hope everyone remembers that the reason Krishna wasn’t invited to Rukmini’s swayamwar was because he was a Yadav and she was a Kshyatriya princess.

Let us also remember that the Prophet Muhammad’s first wife was Khadijah bint Khuwaylid – a merchant who employed him.

Those who have proclaimed themselves as guardians of religion and tradition seem to have forgotten their own religion and tradition :( –

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Muzzling Free Speech ?

Desi Pundit, India, Politics, Society 10 Responses »
May 082010

From the ToI, a couple of days ago :

Those who speak in favour of Maoist guerrillas will face legal action and 10 years imprisonment, the government announced Thursday in a warning to civil society groups who raise voices in favour of Leftwing extremism.

Much as the idea of Mamta Banerjee, Arundati Roy & Digvijay Singh locked up in adjoining cells is interesting, it seems to be an overkill to prosecute people for speech and create more martyrs ….

The Government would be better off, trying to combat propaganda with propaganda, rather than prosecution. Creating more Binayak Sen’s is maybe, not the right way to go….especially when you seem to be doing the right things to bring the Maoists to heel….

Cut off the Maoist funds, seal the borders, send people who provide material support to prison – even if they are supporting your party from the outside ….. but prosecuting members of civil society for speech – even if it is speech you don’t agree with — is futile – it will lead to more speech in favour of what you are trying to suppress .

This is the full quote from the GoI,

It has come to the notice of the Government that some Maoist leaders have been directly contacting certain NGOs/intellectuals to propagate their ideology and persuade them to take steps as would provide support to the CPI (Maoist) ideology. It is brought to the notice of the general public that under Section 39 of the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, 1967, any person who commits the offence of supporting such a terrorist organization with inter alia intention to further the activities of such terrorist organizations would be liable to be punished with imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or with fine or with both. General public are informed to be extremely vigilant of the propaganda of CPI (Maoist) and not unwittingly become a victim of such propaganda.

This is being issued in public interest so that the general public are aware that the Communist Party of India (Maoist) and all its formations and front organizations are terrorist organizations whose sole aim is armed overthrow of the Indian State and that they have no place in India’s parliamentary democracy. CPI (Maoist) continues to kill innocent civilians including tribals in cold blood and destroy crucial infrastructure like roads, culverts, school buildings, gram panchayat buildings, etc. so as to prevent development from reaching these under-developed areas.

Propaganda needs to be combated with propaganda, religion with religion, law with the law — using the Power of the State to combat propaganda is a bit like using a earth mover to crack open a walnut — kind of an exercise in futility !

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Problem with Labels - Right, Left, Liberal etal

Desi Pundit, Development, Economics, Gender Issues, India, Politics, Society 13 Responses »
Mar 142010

I spent 90 odd minutes today debating – “challenging Left Liberalism” on the offstumped community portal

I am pretty much a Liberal centrist moderate  who has a 10 degree oscillation on issues to the left and right. There are policy issues on which I may agree with either, neither or sometimes both. For example – GM – the Indian Left & the right were in tandem on this issue. or the Women’s reservation bill – ditto.

I have a problem with labels because they tend to straight jacket views and opinions and polarise discussion – which may make for great spectator sport, but achieves very little in terms of tangible goals.

In India most of these labels break down. I don’t know why but they do. Most parties seem to occupy more or less similar positions on most issues. the points of dissension tend to be Minorities – be they gender, religious, ethnic, caste etal. and policies regarding these minorities.

Just as the cold war was between right wing ‘conservatism’ & right wing socialism – In India the sides are left wing ‘conservatism’ and left wing socialism in various various avtaars. .I see right wing socialism from the BJP and left wing socialism from the Communists. The Congres, is somewhere in the centre.

Of all the parties – I see the Congress, or rather the UPA, being more free market. I see the BJP having a slightly more aggressive stance on National security – but – if I leave out ‘secularism’ and do a blind test between the parties – they are in more or less the same space.

Be it reservation – caste or gender; be it social welfare – in terms of NREGA or education – politically there is a broad consensus that it ought to be done. There may be dispute on the modalities – corruption, leakages, no reservation for religious minorities, no reservation for women etal – but no one is opposing any of these ‘conceptually’.
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I see Liberalism – as essentially standing for freedom – freedom of choice, freedom of market, freedom of individual, freedom to be, and a modern Constitutional Republic being one that guarantees these freedoms. I don’t see any of these parties really standing for these values –because their entire power base is vote bank driven . This entire ‘majority minority’ fault line that is referred to in the question – is also a result of these vote bank politics.

And then I see this fringe – both on the left and the right that will protest at anything – that that is that is made up of the Arundati Roy’s and the Pramod Muthalik’s of the world . They exist on the left and right – and tend to scream shout and grab media attention.

Now, if we are going to use the neo conservative label of ‘left liberal’ with all its associations of the ‘loony fringe’ and that includes the Indian equivalent of being anti big business and pro gay marriage or Anti state – then the answer is no –that group if it exists is barely organised or indeed in agreement on a variety of issues. However, these groups tend to be more elite – and therefore can occupy more media space and are – IMHO – fairly colonised in their thinking. The kind of people who will talk about Indian issues with the US constitution as a reference point.. I have had ‘debates’ with them where, for example, theism would immediately be countered by ‘do you believe in evolution’

But, I believe it is more arm chair rather than any direct involvement ! It is also got the wrong reference points ! but these are convenient reference points for the ELM to latch on to and further the debate. And, to be very honest – the same is the case with the right wing – the western reference points in terms of Nationalism and National Identity – which breaks down in a multi dimensional entity like India.

All sides of the debate – have taken on very firang definitions & positions – that neither accounts for the differences in history, nor the diversity of India, nor the unique developmental challenges. They have taken on values from more or less homogeneous states and societies and tried to transplant them here. So, the debates that I have followed on the net are more in the “Hindutva” v/s “Secularism” space rather than balanced budget v/s “Social Spending” space. I guess the former is easier to disagree/agree on.

Economics is very rarely discussed. There may be an occasional outcry on the farm loan waiver, or a diatribe against Nehruvian planning – and how it is bad for the economy, but very rarely do we discuss the fact that an average of Rs.50,000 crores annually is given as subsidy to fertilizer companies – that possibly distorts the entire market ! There is little focus on now and tomorrow. Most of the focus is historic – and the tack seems to be ‘they misbehaved then, i have a right to misbehave now’ – fairly juvenile and not very productive in terms of achieving anything! it often seems like a fight between kids in the 3rd standard !

Most groups are still stuck on the Hindu v/s Muslim (yawn !!) issues with little attention given to economics or strategy – except that it would be broadly pro regulation – yet not clear on how much; broadly anti-Pak, look blank about China, Think of Africa as a place where they could go on Safari, South America being somewhere out there !
And, of course the fact that we should do ‘something’ about poor people who live in the villages – a line that has me cracking up with laughter !

These also tend to be very absolutist – for example M.F.Hussain. Does he have the right to paint – of course. Does someone else have the right to protest against those paintings ….. they are more ambiguous ! or Should people learn local languages – and can non violent protest be a way of ensuring that ? We may agree on that there should ‘be no violence’ but for some reason – we are anti – protest – and decry protest -against our pet causes – as being misguided.

In all this – the Middle Path is muddied. And, for me, India has always been about the middle path.

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Debating Left Liberalism

India, Politics, Society 16 Responses »
Mar 142010

My mother told me, a long time ago, never to debate religion or politics with strangers. i am breaking that rule tonight!

there is a panel discussion (more like panel typing) on “Challenging Left Liberalism” . It is being ‘held’ at the Offstumped Community Portal , and starts at 7 pm IST. the debate/discussion (i am hoping it is the latter’ will be between Swapan DasGupta, Kanchan Gupta, Ashok Malik & yours truly !!

Left Liberal is defined by the site as ” any ideology or policy that advocates all of below.” :

#1 Primacy of Individual over Community and the State in making Cultural Choice

#2 Illegitimacy of Community in making any Cultural Choice on behalf of Individual.

#2 Primacy of the State over Community and primacy of the Community over the Individual in making Economic Choice

#3 Illegitimacy of any autonomy to the Individual in making Economic Choice

#4 Illegitimacy of any autonomy to the State in making choices to preserve itself

I guess that this slicing & dicing would make Margaret Thatcher a somewhat left liberal :) the debate should be fun … do drop in !

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In Memorium - 12/3 Bombay Blasts

Desi Pundit, India, Mumbai, Pakistan, Politics, Society, terror 2 Responses »
Mar 122010

March 12th 1993. A time when Mumbai was still Bombay. Lokhandwalla was a set of buildings in progress, where gangs regularly went to war. Where In Orbit & Hypercity Malad were rubbish dumps, when the expressway didn’t exist, when Asiatic and Akbarally’s were great malls and when Phoenix was a shut down mill !

March 12th 1993, a set of blasts that shook Mumbai to the core. Buildings blasted, people vaporized and the sense of innate security that citizens of this metropolis had torn to shreds. In all,

A series of bomb blasts ripped through 13 places in the city, killing 257 people and injuring 713. These were the first blasts in which RDX was used and the explosions were allegedly planned by underworld don Dawood Ibrahim.

This was before the 24/7 news era – and therefore the term 12/3 has not passed into popular lexicon ! No body remembers the anniversary or places flowers at key places where the bombs went off and people died

Locations attacked include (dead in brackets)

* Fisherman’s Colony in Mahim causeway[15]
* Zaveri Bazaar[12]
* Plaza Cinema[12]
* Century Bazaar[12]
* Katha Bazaar[12]
* Hotel Sea Rock[12]
* Sahar Airport[12]
* Air India Building[12]
* Hotel Juhu Centaur[12]
* Plaza Theatre near Shiv Sena HQ[16]
* Lucky Petrol near Shiv Sena HQ[16]
* Worli[17]
* Bombay Stock Exchange Building[10]
* Hotel Centaur, Santa Cruz[16]
* Area opposite of Century Bazaar[13]
* Passport Office[18]

I was a student at that time, away in London. I heard about it on the BBC. I was terrified. My dad worked in Air India Building, my brother studied at Xaviers, my mom taught at Sophia’s – all in town, and both passing the passport office en route to our home. It was a different time – no instant messaging, no net, no twitter – and the land lines were impossible to get through to …..

My mother told me about this BEST bus that was blown up near the passport office. many commuters were 12th standard students, who having finished their HSC exams were returning to their respective homes. Not enough scraps were found for last rites.

SR pointed me out to a spot next to Sena Bhavan – the site of a petrol pump – where a bomb failed to go off. Had it gone off the whole area would have been levelled .

The foot soldiers behind the blast were sentenced a few years ago. Those who planned it still run free.

The BBC’s coverage -

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Bal Thackeray Commits Blasphemy - Questions & Attacks God .

Desi Pundit, India, Politics, Society 23 Responses »
Nov 162009

There is no better sign of a party losing all signs of perspective than to attack Sachin Tendulkar on the eve of his 20th anniversary. Which is essentially what Balasaheb Thackeray did.

Thackeray said his “friendly advice” to Tendulkar was that he should “concentrate on international pitch” and stay away from politics for his “own well-being”.

Sachin’s ‘mistake’ – to state

“Mumbai belongs to India. I am a Maharashtrian and proud to be a Maharashtrian, but I am also an Indian,”

The Shiv Sena which has been floundering like a beached goldfish for the last 5 years – has possibly decided to put itself out of its own misery make political capital by taking on India’s favorite son.

‘You are free to hit fours and sixers on the cricket field, but keep off the political pitch,’ …… when you speak politics like this you tear the hearts of Maharashtrians. ‘With that one statement, you became ‘run out’ in the pitch of Marathi minds,’ stay away from politics for ‘…….own well-being …Thackeray said,

This, predictably, has united the rest of India – except for the Thackeray family – in a manner in which that even 26/11 couldn’t. Imagine the Congress, BJP, Communists, SP, etal agreeing on anything ?  Well they all agree that the old man has lost it.

I am waiting for a whole bunch of Sachin bhakts to take to the street and burn Thackeray effigies (the whole disunited family, why discriminate?) for the insult to their God !

to get a jhalak of the sentiment – check out the churumuri poll on Thackeray v/s Tendulkar here.

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Politicians who shouldn't appear on TV....

Desi Pundit, India, Politics, Society 21 Responses »
Oct 042009

… because  they evoke violence in non violent people.

I am mostly non violent.

But, there are times when i watch or hear TV – not often, because I have severely curtailed news viewing since 26/11 – that I have this desire to reach through the screen and ‘bajaofy some poeple, kaan ke neeche “. I can’t help it. It is instinctive. It has nothing to do with their politics or the parties that they represent. It has more to do with who they are and the ‘snake oil salesmanship’ that oozes out of their entire being.

I am sure that I am not alone in finding the bulk of the political class unbearable. But, these especially get me thinking of violence against my poor TV set. So in no particular order of their ability to irritate are my top nominees

Ravi Shankar Prasad – ‘let me tell you my good friend ” he starts, and then the whole conversation derails. He is patronizing, dogmatic and just the kind of person you don’t want to listen to. the kind of older uncle you have, who says ‘what do you know – when i was your age….”

Rajiv  Pratap  Rudy – if I was casting, he would be the used car salesman. His handling of Tharoor and Parrikar have been seriously bad – reeking of envy rather than opinion & have ended up making his party seem even more inept.

Manish Tiwari – I am quite sure that every time this man turns up in public and opens his mouth – he loses his party supporters. He is seriously irritating, ill informed and blunders where idiots fear to tread.  The first search result when you search for him is this, and what it says is apt for him :

Content will come here.Content will come here.Content will come here.Content will come here.Content will come here.

Abhishek Singhvi : the kid in class who wants to get the eye of the teacher, the one who will bring her a flower or an apple. Smart, the way a school debater is, and just as blinkered. Life is not about scoring points, nor about defending the indefensible – it is about the courage of conviction.

Brinda Karat : EVerytime I hear her, i have the urge to throw something heavy at the TV screen.  The kind of person who, along with her husband, has destroyed the ideological ingrity of the Communists.  When I hear her on China, I want to ask her “where do your loyalties lie ”

Ram Vilas Paswan - His desire for power has been so great, that he can fight on any side of the issue; maybe even simultaneously . He epitomizes the line ” how do you tell a politician is lying; his lips are moving” – more than anyone else i can recall in polity

Which of them get your goat ?

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MKG - 140

Desi Pundit, India, Politics, Society 5 Responses »
Oct 022009

On his 140th Anniversary, one of my favorite quotes from Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi :

The roots of violence . Somehow we have moved so far away from those ideals

Wealth without work. – i wonder if the global economic meltdown would have happened if the system looked at value instead of valuation.

Pleasure without conscience especially if you have the money. Roman Polanski, Shiney Ahuja, Salman Khan, ….

Knowledge without character - people, who should know better, who play the system. It is the way we evade taxes, figure loopholes in the law !

Commerce without morality - To Say Satyam would be unfair – it is the system – from the guy who doesn’t give you a pucca bill, to the guy who tries to fudge on Sales Tax, to the person who sells adulterated stuff or someone who thought this up

Science without humanity – GM. It is killing our farmers :( so are fertilizers !

Worship without sacrifice. – sacrifice doesn’t mean some poor goat or whatever – it means tyaag :( amongst other things, it means waiting in queues like a penitent pilgrim when going to see ‘God’ – not claiming VIP status to walk in and walk out. Imagine the arrogance, going to see ‘God’ and claim that you are a VIP – tut, tut !

Politics without principles. – Parliament, Legislature .

I wonder if it is that difficult to follow. Is it the way we are individually bringing up gen next or is it an issue with society and changing values ?

I should have issues about Mont Blanc naming a 14 lakh pen after him – but, would he have ? or would he have gone about doing his work – the way he always did ?

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Austerity 09 - Random Thoughts

Desi Pundit, India, Politics, Society 6 Responses »
Sep 162009

It has been interesting to see the Government at work. And, although there is a tremendous amount of twittering (as opposed to tweeting) and sniggering - austerity not a bad idea. With the kind of National Debt that we are carrying, and with the kind of expenses we are gonig to incur – it’s a good idea to cut down on ‘unnecessary’ expenses.

Just after the last crash – the dot com crash – the company i was working for faced a down turn. a memo went out requesting  all senior personnel to cut down travel and fly economy when they had to. Most people cribbed, cringed and flew business – till they saw the founder Chairman traveling economy. From the next day everyone fell in line. But, this was not about just air travel or 5 star stay – it was about cost cutting across the length and breadth of the organisation – including slashing budgets and  shedding jobs. It would have been difficult to achieve those in a smooth manner – if the more visible symbols of spending were not pruned.

At around the same time – i had a conversation with a friend of mine who is in the armed forces. We were both in Hyderabad at that time. I was at a place called Amruta Castle and he was at one of the Taj properties. We bumped into each other when he came to collect his ‘men’. He was amused that a Head of Business fora large media company would be staying in the same hotel that non commissioned officers from the armed forces were put up. He was even more aghast when i told him that my CEO stayed there :) It was OK for him – he didn’t have to pay the bill. What was surprising was the sense of ‘entitlement’ – i found that kind of odd !

In all our ‘worship’ of things that are powerful and our acceptance of all sorts of ‘entitelment’ – we forget that governments are also organisations. in tough times, they have to cut costs, freeze pay, slash budgets , cut expenses. Also, with drought looming -spends in other areas are going to rise. Drought relief, food procurement, health – etal are going to see increased spending. Like any good organisation – Government too has called for belt tightening. And it starts with ministers and MP’s. They are “leaders’ and it is about time they led from the front. It is not about air travel or business class – it is a message that will, hopefully, go down from top to bottom across the board – from the judiciary, to the armed forces; from the bureaucracy to the PSU’s – stop wasting our money on non-essentials.  Whether it is paper wastage, electricity, water, fuel, phone – whatever – cut costs – because the money is going to be used elsewhere. Let’s not knock symbolism – it has an effect.

Finally, hats off to Sonia Gandhi for putting her money where her mouth is and travelling economy. This is the kind of action on which moral authority is built !

To Rahul, the advice would be follow Gandhiji and travel second class (non AC) – preferably unreserved – if you really want to see India !

And, to Jayanti Natarajan – sweetie – austerity on expenses does not mean austerity in humour :) get a funny bone. I can almost see your pursed lips when i read this :

“The party strongly disapproves the statement of the minister. It is unacceptable, not respecting political or any other sensibilities,” said Congress spokesperson Jayanthi Natarajan.

This primness was in response to Shashi Tharoor - who shot his mouth off on twitter – little realising that it i s a public forum, in a nation without humour – to a journalist, :)

On the micro-blogging site Twitter, veteran journalist Kanchan Gupta of the Pioneer asked Tharoor: “Tell us minister, next time you travel to Kerala, will it be cattle class?” Tharoor replied: “Absolutely, in cattle class out of solidarity with all our holy cows.”

While the exchange is cute and all that – there is no ‘off the record’ on platforms like twitter – next time you want to be smart use SMS :)

And, finally finally – wouldn’t it be nice if the Congress laid down a dictat – and imposed it with an iron hand – no corruption till the drought is over.

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Sushma Swaraj & Chocolate (faces)

India, Politics 13 Responses »
Jul 132009

I have met Sushma Swaraj once. She was in brief political exile, and had agreed to inaugurate my television channel. I say mine, as though i owned it – I didn’t :) but, it was mine in that a whole lot of my dreams and aspirations were tied up with it ! But,  I digress. We had requested her to symbolically launch the channel. She agreed – very graciously. She was witty, intelligent, fun, classily dressed – without intimidating you, warm, and decent.  – just the kind of person you would want your favourite periamma to be :) . She cut the proverbial red ribbon – and declared the channel launched & she left.  A nice lady.

But, then i saw her political avtaar. Just post the BJP defeat last time around, she sort of lost it. Kaikeyi rather than kaki :( threatening to shave her hair and sleep on the ground in white. My grandmother – was appalled. How can a sumangali behave like that she asked – emphasizing the disconnect between Hinduism & Hindutva.

In the fallout post the last elections, she has been flip flopping around like a gold fish out of water – trying to provide a voice of reason to the outside world – when the men in her party disappeared to wallow in self pity and self indulgence – instead of acting like an Opposition. But, she has still not got the hang of things :

“Congress first plasters a city with posters and hoardings of its leaders. Then it takes these chocolate faces to the city. Obviously, glamour has its own attraction among the youth and they join the party.” Swaraj, who became a minister in the Haryana government at 25 years of age, said BJP had always encouraged young leaders. “But we did not sing about it. We treated it as natural. Congress flaunts these chocolate faces while our young leaders are not even noticed by the media,”

Auntyji – your young leaders are ignored by your own system. Where are your young spokespeople (unless you include yourself – after all you are younger than Mr.Advani & Mr.Joshi). Maybe, you need to appoint young BJP spokespeople to shadow each of the main ministries and get them to come and debate policies in the public space. There is no point in having these leaders, and get us the public to see the same worn, tired, defeated faces.

When 70% of your Target Audience is below 35 – pray why will you not make a song and dance about young politicians. Age may have virtue in our tradition – but after a certain age, the elderly leave it to the youngsters and enter vanaprasthna . Besides with the elderly of the BJP behaving like peas porridge in the pot, 9 days old – its is hardly surprising that the youth prefers chocolate.

An advice to Mrs. Swaraj – Shrillness & sarcasm don’t really suit you. Go back to being nice and warm and decent. That may actually attract more votes !

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